"... what is Sir Calvin like? The secretary of foreign affairs is the equivalent of the so-called foreign minister, right? Well, that's enough to say you're after the next pope, so you're an amazing big guy, right?
Gaius first stepped away from Lennon and asked Darm about the person of Sir Calvin, who was behind it.
"... yes, you're the Minister for Foreign Affairs if you're from another country. I think you can call it a big guy among the big guys because you've been trying for more than a decade now. Honestly, I don't know if you're after the Pope, but I'm pretty sure he's second only to the Pope in Lowenglin. I think that's why they take it with nature and the next pope."
"... I see. I mean, you're in the right position to be taken for granted like that even if you're not after it separately, right?
"Right. Anyway, you've been taking over the diplomacy of our country for over a decade. Clearly, I think he's the next Pope's rightmost wing to have no opposing horse."
"So you're saying that if you keep quiet, sooner or later you'll be in Pope status. If you were aiming for the Pope's throne, you wouldn't have to force yourself to chase him down."
"... uh-huh. I don't know..."
"No?
"... no, I guess there was little difference between the Pope and Sir Calvin in years"
"... I see. If Sir Calvin is young, if he just waits, the Pope's throne will roll in sooner or later, but if the years are almost the same, then sometimes Sir Calvin dies first."
"... yeah, well..."
"Sir Calvin's status and position were well understood. But I don't know who you are, but what are you like?
"... come on, I'm not sure on the bottom end like me. Well, I suppose he seems strict anyway..."